Monday, April 13, 2009

Amway Global - Seeds Of Doubt - Or Your Conscience Calling?

Some IBOs and Amway supporters recently, and in the past have accused Joecool of planting "seeds of doubt" in the minds of IBOs. Granted, I am a critic of the Amway Global opportunity but it's not like I am telling lies about the Amway business. I am basically telling my story, and what I see wrong with the Amway opportunity, which is primarily the motivational groups such as WWDB, Network 21, and/or BWW.

These motivational groups entice prospects to join Amway, and then encourage the IBOs to subscribe to KATE, standing order, book of the month, attend seminars, open meetings, etc. These materials and seminars are often promoted as "key to your success" or "vital" to your business, yet there is no evidence that these materials help anyone to build a profitable business. Instead, the vast majority of IBOs end up channeling money into these materials, which makes their uplines wealthy. I see it as a gross conflict of interest very unethical. Yet for years, these uplines have shamelessly emptied the pockets of the downline, all the while pretending to be great leaders and teachers. If these teachings actually led to business success, there would be few critics. Some Amway apologists will claim that most if not all who go diamond and above use the system, and at the same time, disregard the millions of IBOs over the years who used the same system with no results. What I find very humorous is that the Amway Champion himself (IBOFightback) has apparently not achieved anything of significance in Amway, except for his 3% bonus, if even that.

What Amway supporters may call "seeds of doubt", is in reality, I believe an IBO's conscience simply telling the IBO that what is printed on this blog is probably the truth and that what is said here often makes more sense than what upline is teaching.

So IBOs and prospects, ask yourself, is Joecool planting seeds of doubt or simply
awakening your conscience who tells you to think twice?


mike said...

I think where the problems lie with the AMO is the intentional blur of Business with Teaching.

The AMO's are doing what they do, which is selling a training program.

And that training program is what is creating all the "weatlh".

While there is profits to be made selling Amway products..(as with any business) without the "motivational" aspect of the AMO, there would not be near the number of higher level pins, which made their money from selling to their downline.

If anyone gets involved with Amway and their upline is unable to show them how they are making a profit..then they need not get involved.

Joecool said...

It is clear to me that uplines are mostly interested in getting people on the system and not in helping their downlines succeed.

If too many people achieved diamond, there would be too little tool money.

MichMan said...

***jc said: If too many people achieved diamond, there would be too little tool money.****

There is an endless supply of tool money if you are churning enough new people in and out of the business. (New people are the ones who eagerly gobble up every pack of cds to build their new business.)

The level of your tool income really depends on HOW you teach your people to build their business.

In our organization Diamonds were taught to have a minimum of 700 people on the system and going to seminars/functions.

Multiply 700 times $2000 of tools per year and you have $1.4 million in system money. Of course, the Diamond does not get to keep all of that. Platinums get a little, as do Sapphires, Emeralds and any upline pins from the Diamond that are cut into the pie.

Some of our Diamonds (not Double Diamonds, Crowns, etc) were pulling THOUSANDS to seminars and out of state functions creating MILLIONS of dollars more of tool income each year.

Now, contrast that example to a person goes Diamond with six legs plus his own 7500 teaching RETAIL model.

He could have as little as 10-25 people in six groups doing 300-1000 PV , plus another small group contributing to his own 7500.

How much less in total income is the retail Diamond is going to make?

The retail distributors would buy fewer tools. They really don't need thousands of dollars of tools each year to sell a few products each month to their friends and neighbors?

So why do you think the buy from yourself model is taught?

Joecool said...

Michman, I should have said that the current tenured and greedy diamonds probably want all or most of the tool money for themselves.

The buy from yourself model is taught because most people do not like selling. It is uncomfortable to sell things. If IBOs have difficulty in recruiting others because of the Amway name, selling Amway products can have a similar effect.